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  • #171052
    BillNew
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    davidd,

    Though there are elements of Trump that I find appealing, he is fighting an uphill battle on several fronts.

    The same “brashness” that may give world leaders a moment of pause … i.e. What is that crazy SOB going to do if I do this ? … also makes sane individuals wonder just how much of the B/S he actually believes.

    The stuff that makes good movies, in reality, makes dead soldiers. In the real world, Rambo is laying dead on the ground about five minutes into any one of his movies. And guys that charge machine gun nests don’t live to win Congressional Medals of Honor.

    The United States, like most of the developed world, is facing a huge demographic shift. I have long felt that 2016 is the last election cycle that it is even mathematically possible for a conservative to win the presidency. When I first started following politics in 1980, states like Montana, Alaska, the Dakotas, etc didn’t just go for the conservative candidate. They went for the conservative candidate 80% to 20%. Today, in those same places, a conservative candidate is lucky to squeak out a 5 point lead.

    So, looking forward, if the winning candidate is to be from the Democratic pool, what does it say about this country that a card-carrying socialist nearly won the nomination ? Young people are waiting longer to have babies, and having fewer babies, if they even choose to reproduce at all. Leaders see this and feel that immigration is the only hope to keep the machine fed. So, they embrace it … even to the detriment of all else.

    Did you know that about 38% of all births in the US are the result of an unintended pregnancy ? And that that is only about a 2% improvement over 1970 ? Now, what if a pharma company comes up with a new generation of birth control … one that is not rendered ineffective by things like antibiotics. If that unintended pregnancy rate goes to near 0%, the births per mother rate instantly falls to around 1.2 and that will take down the developed world in just one generation. Even now, what is affectionately called the FSA, is the only growing segment of the population. Those that work and save and pay more in than they take out are solidly on the road to extinction.

    This year, each side will spend in excess of $100 million to determine who will be the next captain of the Titanic.

    But, don’t view it as being anything more than that.

    The last guy to get into the lifeboat gets exactly the same ride as the first. The guy behind him is seriously screwed !

    #171053
    Imxploring
    Participant

    “Even now, what is affectionately called the FSA, is the only growing segment of the population. Those that work and save and pay more in than they take out are solidly on the road to extinction.”

    That in a nutshell is the problem. With all the talk about the “disappearing” middle class people completely ignore the fact that those taking are out breeding those that produce. Government policy and pandering politicians have placed us on this road to ruin which at this point has no way to be corrected without pain and turmoil that few are willing to endure. It’s better to just let the band keep playing and pretend that the ship isn’t destined for the bottom of the ocean.

    I laugh when people talk about the nation debt that has fueled the mess in the US. I stop them in their tracks and ask them what a “debt” is. Then clarify that a “debt” is a monetary commitment that one intends to repay. Then I ask them just how do you think Uncle Sam intends to do that? Uncle Sam is just bouncing ever increasing debt from one credit card to another, just like folks that are living above their means and can’t manage their money…. and we all know how that ends don’t we?

    #171054
    BillNew
    Participant

    [quote=”Imxploring”]
    That in a nutshell is the problem. With all the talk about the “disappearing” middle class people completely ignore the fact that those taking are out breeding those that produce. Government policy and pandering politicians have placed us on this road to ruin which at this point has no way to be corrected without pain and turmoil that few are willing to endure. It’s better to just let the band keep playing and pretend that the ship isn’t destined for the bottom of the ocean.

    I laugh when people talk about the nation debt that has fueled the mess in the US. I stop them in their tracks and ask them what a “debt” is. Then clarify that a “debt” is a monetary commitment that one intends to repay. Then I ask them just how do you think Uncle Sam intends to do that? Uncle Sam is just bouncing ever increasing debt from one credit card to another, just like folks that are living above their means and can’t manage their money…. and we all know how that ends don’t we?
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    Well ….
    Germany taught us all a bit about repaying debt post WWI. When your debt is denominated in a currency that you control, you are never any farther away from being “debt-free” than a couple of drums of ink and a truckload of paper.

    The same is true for the United States. Have you ever heard of the Bretton Woods Conference ?

    During the first 3 weeks of July, 1944, when it had become obvious that the Allies would eventually prevail, 730 delegates from 44 Allied nations met at the Mount Washington Hotel in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire to lay out the course forward. Fourteen men sitting around a round table in the Gold Room pretty much determined the future of the planet. The United States had bailed out Europe (beginning with the Lend-Lease Act as Britain came very close to falling in the Fall of 1940 with an exhausted RAF and a naval blockade by German U-boats) and now it was time to pay the piper. The pound sterling had stood as the world’s reserve currency for 200 years, but that was about to change. With the US Dollar being the “new” world reserve currency, that allowed the US to perpetrate all kinds of naughty things … not the least of which being the ability to export inflation.

    If the Federal Reserve can create $3.5 trillion out of thin air to buy US debt at inflated prices … and everyone STILL flocks to the USD … is there anything to prevent them from just printing up $18 trillion and retiring the debt ? This game that governments play by holding each other’s debt as a means of currency manipulation is just another shell game. It only works as long as people find value in the currency … as long as they are willing to trade goods and/or services for worthless pieces of paper.

    As far as the disappearing middle class goes …
    Most of those jobs that were defined as middle class jobs have been exported or replaced with automation. They were predominantly production line jobs. You can pass a $15 minimum wage but very few are going to get it. A fast food restaurant will have one person working there stocking bins for robots. You’ll order and pay on your phone and the robots will do nearly everything else. The technology is already available. It is just marginally feasible with the minimum wage at $7.25/hour. It’s a no-brainer at $15/hour.

    Artificial intelligence can already replace a person with a 100 IQ and that level is expected to increase by 2%/year. So, nine years from now, it will be able to replace a person with a 120 IQ. That doesn’t leave a lot of employed folks.

    Autonomous vehicles puts every truck driver, taxi driver, chauffeur, etc out of work. Unskilled labor already faces a bleak enough future without them doing anything to accelerate their own demise.

    #171055
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    Our VIP members will know that I have been saying this for years….

    “Make no mistake, the government is ready for a civil uprising…. Indeed, the government has been preparing for this moment for years.” John W. Whitehead

    From: [url=https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/there_will_be_no_second_american_revolution_the_futility_of_an_armed_r]There Will Be No Second American Revolution: The Futility of an Armed Revolt.[/url]

    As an example:

    “The preparations for the Republican and Democratic national conventions taking place in Cleveland and Philadelphia—augmented by a $50 million federal security grant for each city—provide a foretaste of how the government plans to deal with any individual or group that steps out of line: they will be censored, silenced, spied on, caged, intimidated, interrogated, investigated, recorded, tracked, labeled, held at gunpoint, detained, restrained, arrested, tried and found guilty.”

    #171056
    BillNew
    Participant

    What can I say ?

    Great minds think alike …

    😆

    #171057
    Imxploring
    Participant

    [quote=”Scott”]Our VIP members will know that I have been saying this for years….

    “Make no mistake, the government is ready for a civil uprising…. Indeed, the government has been preparing for this moment for years.” John W. Whitehead

    From: [url=https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/there_will_be_no_second_american_revolution_the_futility_of_an_armed_r]There Will Be No Second American Revolution: The Futility of an Armed Revolt.[/url]

    As an example:

    “The preparations for the Republican and Democratic national conventions taking place in Cleveland and Philadelphia—augmented by a $50 million federal security grant for each city—provide a foretaste of how the government plans to deal with any individual or group that steps out of line: they will be censored, silenced, spied on, caged, intimidated, interrogated, investigated, recorded, tracked, labeled, held at gunpoint, detained, restrained, arrested, tried and found guilty.”

    [/quote]

    Federal, State, and Local law enforcement will be stretched to the limit in just dealing with these two non concurrent political events. Now take that same civil unrest and multiply it by 100 simultaneously erupting events in the case of widespread anarchy occurring in major cities if the poop really hits the fan…. the government (fed/state/local) is in no way prepared for such an event.

    Sadly the recent events in Dallas and Baton Rouge have demonstrated just how thin the blue line is in keeping the population under control. And these two events were perpetrated by lone individuals. Even tossing in all the state and federal manpower would not be enough to corral an out of control desperate population.

    #171058
    BillNew
    Participant

    [quote=”Imxploring”]

    Federal, State, and Local law enforcement will be stretched to the limit in just dealing with these two non concurrent political events. Now take that same civil unrest and multiply it by 100 simultaneously erupting events in the case of widespread anarchy occurring in major cities if the poop really hits the fan…. the government (fed/state/local) is in no way prepared for such an event.

    Sadly the recent events in Dallas and Baton Rouge have demonstrated just how thin the blue line is in keeping the population under control. And these two events were perpetrated by lone individuals. Even tossing in all the state and federal manpower would not be enough to corral an out of control desperate population.[/quote]

    I understand your reasoning, but you have to understand that these assemblies were permitted. Curfews were not imposed. Rights to peaceful assembly weren’t suspended. Martial law was not declared.

    Did you know that Posse Comitatus only applies to the Army and Air Force ? It does not apply to:

    The National Guard
    The Air National Guard
    The US Navy
    The US Marine Corps
    The US Coast Guard
    … and the reserve branches of the above …
    etc.

    Unless they are starving to death, the lemmings will stay home if they are told to do so. Those who do venture out will quickly be made examples of. Yes, there is safety in numbers but the numbers just won’t be there. Give the lemmings a bit of food, and an internet connection whose content is govt controlled/censored and they will happily comply. Any that do have a bit of guts will have no reason to be non-compliant as the news will tell them that everything is peachy and that things will be back to normal very soon.

    What you have been witnessing is “reactions”. The govt will simply deny access to those things/news that provoke reaction.

    As disheartening as it is, I truly believe that you grossly overestimate the current population of the US and grossly underestimate how prepared the govt is to control access to information and thereby the resultant behavior.

    You are denied information every day … you simply don’t realize it …

    Do you know what SSRIs are ? They are Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors. They are a class of medication that is everything from antidepressants like Prozac or Zoloft … to insomina medication like Ambien or Lunesta … to smoking cessation aids like Chantix … to ADD medication like Ritalin and Wellbutrin …and the list doesn’t stop there … it goes on and on and on …

    As I’m sure that you know, serotonin is one of the chemicals in your brain that dictates mood/behavior. All of these drugs carry the same warning … “People who have taken XXXXXX or have recently stopped taking XXXXXX have exhibited changes in mood or behavior and/or suicidal thoughts or actions.” I’m sure that you hear this on your TV in the States dozens of times a day. So, tell me, how many news stories have you heard that attributed someone’s outlandish behavior to these drugs? How many suicides have you read about attributed to these drugs ? I’m guessing EXACTLY ZERO ! How many of the mass shooters in the US have been taking these drugs ? Would it surprise you to find out that the answer is “nearly every one of them”? When a young man takes an assault rifle and kills two dozen first graders and then himself … is that a change in mood or behavior … or is that suicidal thoughts or actions ? Was the suicide corollary to the homicides … or were the homicides corollary to the suicide ?

    When a Germanwings co-pilot locks the pilot out of the cockpit and pushes the nose over into the French Alps … taking 149 other people with him … is that suicidal thoughts or actions ?

    Now, I’m sure that you’re thinking to yourself … This can’t be true … I haven’t heard about this on TV. Right! You haven’t heard about it on the TV stations that are paid tens of millions of dollars per day to advertise these drugs. You haven’t read about it in magazines that have a dozen full page ads for these drugs in every issue. You haven’t read about it in the newspapers that have a half dozen half-page ads for these drugs daily. So, I guess these pharmaceutical companies are just spending a shitpot of money warning us about something that never happens … right ?? Yeah ! … we’ll go with that …

    But, can’t you believe what the Surgeon General or authorities at the FDA tell you ? Sure you can … these people aren’t looking to land a cushy job with a pharma company as soon as they retire from public service … now are they ?

    You want honesty about these drugs then look to the Chief Aeromedical Examiner of the FAA. He doesn’t have a cushy job waiting for him. He has ONE job … to insure flight safety … and he takes these drugs VERY seriously! Of the dozens of different types of these SSRIs, there are about four that you can take and still hold an FAA medical. And even then, you have to be at full dosage for one year and have multiple mental and physical health evaluations before you’ll be cleared if you are a regular user.

    These drugs are psychotropic and incredibly dependency-building …

    But … we don’t hear that … because we don’t need to know that …

    After all, we’re just lemmings …

    #171059
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    1. In case you missed it, you may want to see: A Brief History of SSRI Shootings at [ https://youtu.be/fbBL870Cxns ]

    2. Ever wondered what LEGAL drugs were a BIG factor in those school shootings? Take a look at: [ http://www.ssristories.net/school-shootings/ ]

    3. Here is a shocking list of school shootings, murders, suicides and other violent acts committed by people who were taking psychotropic drugs which you can see at: [ http://www.ssristories.com/index.php ]

    Scott

    PS. BillNew – [b]We gotta’ have lunch together[/b] the next time you come to SJO area! 🙂

    #171060
    BillNew
    Participant

    [quote=”Scott”]
    PS. BillNew – [b]We gotta’ have lunch together[/b] the next time you come to SJO area! 🙂

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    OK … I’m in …. but you have to realize that we’re not going to agree on everything. I know that you’re an Ardbeg fan … and although I have the greatest respect for Islay (and Ardbeg’s notable marketing campaign)… I’m a Bowman 25y fan through and through … the only “committees” that matter to me are found in clusters on my tongue …

    Given that we are both rational adults … I don’t think that these differences are something that we can’t work through given a couple of glasses … a bucket of ice … and two Nicaraguan hammocks …

    Although I am not a big “conspiracy theory” person … you may want to do a Google search on “The Facebook post that killed John Noveske” … I think that you will find it enlightening …

    Take care and good night,

    Bill

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