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http://www.infowars.com/cameron-fleeing-america-to-escape-collapse/
Note sure why one would need that many acres for a home, unless one is going to go into farming or something, but still….
he’s only buying a couple of thousand acres, which is what you need to live in isolation so that if your neighbor sprays round-up it doesn’t cover your property. what i want to know is WHY the Bush family bought 100,000 acres in paraguay? really?
[b]THESE PARAGRAPHS BELOW is what makes the difference.[/b]
“Cameron has successfully applied to buy 1,067 hectares (2,636 acres) of farmland in New Zealand. In an application filed with the New Zealand Overseas Investment Office, Cameron says he and his family “intend to reside indefinitely in New Zealand and are acquiring the property to reside on and operate as a working farm,” reports the Associated Press.
Cameron’s decision fits the trend of wealthy Americans pulling their money out of the country and reinvesting it to buy land in the southern hemisphere, escaping spiraling tax rates and protecting themselves against the potential for widespread social dislocation.
In 2010, John Malone, billionaire chairman of Liberty Media, announced that he had bought a retreat on the Quebec border as an insurance policy to “have a place to go if things blow up here,” adding that he was concerned about the survival of the dollar and whether or not “America (was) going to make it” through the economic crisis.
The political class are also seeking financial refuge in foreign land buys. The Bush family purchased 100,000 acres in Paraguay back in 2006.
Growing concern that economic stagnation could lead to widespread civil unrest, allied to crippling tax hikes, is causing many members of the super-rich to abandon the United States in pursuit of more stable countries with friendlier financial conditions for those with wealth. According to the Census Bureau, “The top-earning 1% of US taxpayers are leaving the USA at the highest rate in history.” In addition, a Zogby International poll found that more than 3 million US citizens relocate abroad every year, as record numbers of rich US citizens renounce their citizenship to escape punishing levels of taxation.
Indeed, emergency relocation specialists that we have spoken to tell us that the wealthy are digging in with the purchase of fortified compounds which include underground bunkers, or alternatively leaving the United States altogether.
While a catastrophic collapse may not occur, those with significant wealth are exercising their financial muscle to buy insurance policies in the form of land and secure compounds either in remote areas of the United States or in more stable foreign countries.
I am looking at property, online for now, in CR for just when things do blow up…sadly, wife not willing to move until we sell certain land here, tied up in a estate that her uncle, who is executor, is still dragging his heels on final remains of duties and does not want to sell (he actually things sales and economy will sk rocket in near future if we jsut hang in there, keep paying huge taxes and wait). We now looking at lawyer to separate land we own and others that want to sell from him, who does not. We have offers, though much lower then those that he turned down ( and did not tell some of us about). Still, there are buyers. In meantime, I do have money for small, modest finca,etc….but have to wait..
Malta was on my list, but too small ,dependant of resources on others and stricter buying laws for foreigners…CR has been top on my list and have a cousin that has been to CR a few times and has land in San Ramon area……[quote=”maravilla”]he’s only buying a couple of thousand acres, which is what you need to live in isolation so that if your neighbor sprays round-up it doesn’t cover your property. what i want to know is WHY the Bush family bought 100,000 acres in paraguay? really?[/quote]
re-read post and apparently, he is thinking of doing some farming and likely, more toward organic then GMO laden food.
Bush’s have long Hx in oil and Nazis, Paraguay has oil (one of artilces linked noted that Bush buying land thorugh daughter in some marsh land w/oil reserves). Bushes helped to fund Hitler, etc and many Nazi’s-along with war weary every day Germans, fled post WWII to S. America……some prior and in 1800’s….
I am all for privacy, that 100,000 acress though makes one wonder if it is oil, some other resources or a nice compound for the Global Elites to hang out in and wait out their firestorm they have sowed…..On upside, the wife is seeing clearer that the end is nigh for US and that we may in fact have to emigrate out….CR may not be immune, esp too freindly at times with US, but might be able to blend in more and coast…..still, along w/CR, thinking of Ecuador too as a possibility…..
[quote=”Camby”][quote=”maravilla”]he’s only buying a couple of thousand acres, which is what you need to live in isolation so that if your neighbor sprays round-up it doesn’t cover your property. what i want to know is WHY the Bush family bought 100,000 acres in paraguay? really?[/quote]
re-read post and apparently, he is thinking of doing some farming and likely, more toward organic then GMO laden food.
Bush’s have long Hx in oil and Nazis, Paraguay has oil (one of artilces linked noted that Bush buying land thorugh daughter in some marsh land w/oil reserves). Bushes helped to fund Hitler, etc and many Nazi’s-along with war weary every day Germans, fled post WWII to S. America……some prior and in 1800’s….
I am all for privacy, that 100,000 acress though makes one wonder if it is oil, some other resources or a nice compound for the Global Elites to hang out in and wait out their firestorm they have sowed…..[/quote]O.K. [b]CAMBY[/b] You are now taking on more than you should. I sit back and watch your endless comments. You can comment all you want about all that is CR, although you say it is ten or more years before you move to CR and things will be different than they are today. SO now you start taking on US politics and referring to certain presidents in a negative and very controversial way. That may be your opinion but [b]this site has agreed before you came along to not discuss US politics. [/b] So keep running your mouth, make yourself look like the keyboard commando you are, but I for one [b]don’t appreciate you spewing your views on US politics and this site has agreed not to go there.[/b]
There is NO AGREEMENT on this site to limit topics, Clewis. We discuss many things here, and US political and economical issues are relevant to Costa Rica. If you are uninterested, simply go away from this thread and quit trying to manipulate.
I have no idea when the world wide socio-economic crash will happen, but there is ample evidence that it IS going to happen. The only question besides the “when” is the “where to go”.
Before such a melt down happens, generally speaking, it seems practical to me that moving to remote countryside is preferable to staying in heavily populated areas. And moving outside the US is preferable to looking for refuge within that country. There are more guns per capita there than most other countries.
I suppose anywhere in Costa Rica which is NOT San Jose would do, although the question of self sufficiency is an important matter to consider. Whatever happens, wherever I am when it happens, I would want to be in the countryside with some stored food and a gun or two.
[quote=”sprite”]There is NO AGREEMENT on this site to limit topics, Clewis. We discuss many things here, and US political and economical issues are relevant to Costa Rica. If you are uninterested, simply go away from this thread and quit trying to manipulate.
I have no idea when the world wide socio-economic crash will happen, but there is ample evidence that it IS going to happen. The only question besides the “when” is the “where to go”.
Before such a melt down happens, generally speaking, it seems practical to me that moving to remote countryside is preferable to staying in heavily populated areas. And moving outside the US is preferable to looking for refuge within that country. There are more guns per capita there than most other countries.
I suppose anywhere in Costa Rica which is NOT San Jose would do, although the question of self sufficiency is an important matter to consider. Whatever happens, wherever I am when it happens, I would want to be in the countryside with some stored food and a gun or two.[/quote]
You are SOO wrong man. There was an agreement. I guess [b]someone else [/b]needs to step in and refresh your memory. With all due respect you don’t even live in CR. Neither do I, but I don’t run around on this site like I know it all. I enjoy hearing from those who do live in country. I could debate you on the issue you refer to but there’s no point.
[quote=”sprite”]… Whatever happens, wherever I am when it happens, I would want to be in the countryside with some stored food and a gun or two.[/quote]
I just love the kooks that this site attracts. Yes I know, when I come knocking on your door asking for food during the invasion of zombies, I mean vampire revolution, err I mean socio-economic crash, you’ll just pull the trigger. LOL.
But as a part-time comic in all seriousness, do you really need to move HERE sprite?
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You are SOO wrong man. There was an agreement. I guess [b]someone else [/b]needs to step in and refresh your memory. With all due respect you don’t even live in CR. Neither do I, but I don’t run around on this site like I know it all. I enjoy hearing from those who do live in country. I could debate on the issue you refer to but there’s no point.[/quote]clewis, there are some people who simply like to talk and others who do. sprite is one that likes to talk. For over 5 years sprite has talked about moving to Costa Rica but has not. I also recall sprite talking about converting all evil fiat currencies into gold coins and ingots so he/she could buy local produce at the feria and local stores in Costa Rica. We don’t need to ask how that would work as any practical person could see the answer quite clearly – but not sprite. Nope, we are the brain-washed masses of sprite’s overactive imagination. Perhaps Obama care can offer some much needed assistance to sprite?
i wouldn’t pooh-pooh the idea of converting fiat currencies into precious metals — i know some very astute millionaires who are doing just THAT! And for all the reasons sprite mentioned. as for the Bushes shady history, it’s hardly controversial unless you consider the facts themselves to be controversial but it is well-known that grandpa Bush had his fingers in a lots of things that could be construed as supporting the Nazis- namely, the making of a quick buck. all indicators are that the economic meltdown has not even reached its peak yet and that concerns me, but then 30 years ago i knew that getting “out” and living in a rural area would be what would save us and living where you can grow your own food year-round would be a good idea. if monsanto has its way, the food market will be flooded with GM foods, which i refuse to eat so having the ability to grow heirloom crops is a really appealing idea. i can’t imagine that you garcia and c lewis think the world situation is going to get any better — it has only just begun to tank. vamos a ver!
[quote=”clewis”][quote=”Camby”][quote=”maravilla”]he’s only buying a couple of thousand acres, which is what you need to live in isolation so that if your neighbor sprays round-up it doesn’t cover your property. what i want to know is WHY the Bush family bought 100,000 acres in paraguay? really?[/quote]
re-read post and apparently, he is thinking of doing some farming and likely, more toward organic then GMO laden food.
Bush’s have long Hx in oil and Nazis, Paraguay has oil (one of artilces linked noted that Bush buying land thorugh daughter in some marsh land w/oil reserves). Bushes helped to fund Hitler, etc and many Nazi’s-along with war weary every day Germans, fled post WWII to S. America……some prior and in 1800’s….
I am all for privacy, that 100,000 acress though makes one wonder if it is oil, some other resources or a nice compound for the Global Elites to hang out in and wait out their firestorm they have sowed…..[/quote]O.K. [b]CAMBY[/b] You are now taking on more than you should. I sit back and watch your endless comments. You can comment all you want about all that is CR, although you say it is ten or more years before you move to CR and things will be different than they are today. SO now you start taking on US politics and referring to certain presidents in a negative and very controversial way. That may be your opinion but [b]this site has agreed before you came along to not discuss US politics. [/b] So keep running your mouth, make yourself look like the keyboard commando you are, but I for one [b]don’t appreciate you spewing your views on US politics and this site has agreed not to go there.[/b][/quote]
please, sit back then and zip it up-you obviously buy into any US Neocon propaganda around….and obviously lack the mental abilities to look into things for your self…..me, have been questioning the accepted pablem since I was small, one of first books I read was the Naked Communist….
If you dont enjoy my “spweing” then by all means, tune me out and move on…..Smeulky, Scott and others are critical of US politics……
DO you want CR to become a little USA-replete with materialism, war mongering, jingoism,etc? if so, I might look farther south to retire, if your kind take over CR and destroy it, the way you have turned the USA int oa militarisitc, materialistic nation…..I cant go a day without some war mongering propaganda and waving the flag jingoism…….[quote=”clewis”][quote=”sprite”]There is NO AGREEMENT on this site to limit topics, Clewis. We discuss many things here, and US political and economical issues are relevant to Costa Rica. If you are uninterested, simply go away from this thread and quit trying to manipulate.
I have no idea when the world wide socio-economic crash will happen, but there is ample evidence that it IS going to happen. The only question besides the “when” is the “where to go”.
Before such a melt down happens, generally speaking, it seems practical to me that moving to remote countryside is preferable to staying in heavily populated areas. And moving outside the US is preferable to looking for refuge within that country. There are more guns per capita there than most other countries.
I suppose anywhere in Costa Rica which is NOT San Jose would do, although the question of self sufficiency is an important matter to consider. Whatever happens, wherever I am when it happens, I would want to be in the countryside with some stored food and a gun or two.[/quote]
You are SOO wrong man. There was an agreement. I guess [b]someone else [/b]needs to step in and refresh your memory. With all due respect you don’t even live in CR. Neither do I, but I don’t run around on this site like I know it all. I enjoy hearing from those who do live in country. I could debate you on the issue you refer to but there’s no point.[/quote]
I neither “know it all”, but I know a lot about CR from a lot of reading, research,etc….and I know that as a latin/Catholic culture, still much there, it is superior to the Freemasonic/Diestic mess that the USA is…further, Americans seem not the least interested to want to change, just go for 4th helpings at the buffet and cheer for bombing people they know nothing about and likely, cannot find on a map…..
USA could repent and change, but not likely, as we are in Rome around time of fall-people want bread/circuses and no real critical thinking…..which, I gather, is you too 😀[quote=”maravilla”]i wouldn’t pooh-pooh the idea of converting fiat currencies into precious metals — i know some very astute millionaires who are doing just THAT! And for all the reasons sprite mentioned. as for the Bushes shady history, it’s hardly controversial unless you consider the facts themselves to be controversial but it is well-known that grandpa Bush had his fingers in a lots of things that could be construed as supporting the Nazis- namely, the making of a quick buck. all indicators are that the economic meltdown has not even reached its peak yet and that concerns me, but then 30 years ago i knew that getting “out” and living in a rural area would be what would save us and living where you can grow your own food year-round would be a good idea. if monsanto has its way, the food market will be flooded with GM foods, which i refuse to eat so having the ability to grow heirloom crops is a really appealing idea. i can’t imagine that you garcia and c lewis think the world situation is going to get any better — it has only just begun to tank. vamos a ver![/quote]
good points, no one should go ape-crap and all :shock::twisted: , but some prep is never a bad idea. Mormons, devote ones, usually keep several months to 1+ yrs supply just in case as they now from their past and future predictions, times get tough real quick….having some good neighbors and a finca or land that has some fresh foods not a bad idea either. I started in back yard some gardening. many cultures have small gardens, my grandfathers did too in states, helped out during the last depression.
Today, most are behind the blue glare of TVs in USA to know their neighbors, let alone garden,etc.
Reading the signs of the times.
Got some things stocked up, a few guns, ammo, water,etc and a whole lot of prayers!!!!
Padre Pio said, yrs ago, to pray, not much left but prayer and hope….
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