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There are reliable sources reporting a significant increase in illegal aliens crossing the Mexican-US border with some level of encouragement and assistance from the US federal government.
The majority of these immigrants come from Guatemala and other Central American regions.
Costa Rica has illegal immigration as do many countries with economic conditions which are marginally or significantly superior to their contiguous neighbors.
I assume this new increase of movement to the north through Mexico will have some reducing effect on illegal immigration into CR.
Regardless of whether or not this development makes a noticeable difference in CR, I wonder how one would verify current changes in illegal immigration.
Not sure I fully understand your comments Sprite…
Why would the feds be helping illegal alliens to enter the U.S?
Most of the illegal immigrants in Costa Rica come from Nicaragua and the number of Guatemalans here (apart from my wife) and Mexicans is very small indeed.
As for being able to “verify” illegal immigration, that’s got to be nigh on impossible.
Scott
[quote=”Scott”]Not sure I fully understand your comments Sprite…
Why would the feds be helping illegal alliens to enter the U.S?
Scott[/quote]
Scotthow was your trip???
regarding yor question about why the feds would be helping…?? there are some theory’s regarding this as this in my opinion is not accidental..
I forgot the name of one theory regarding to overload the current system and when it becomes so overwhelmed the people clamor for the government to come in and provide a solution..
interesting
[quote=”davidd”] I forgot the name of one theory regarding to overload the current system and when it becomes so overwhelmed the people clamor for the government to come in and provide a solution..
interesting[/quote]
You’re referring to Problem-Reaction-Solution?
Where the politicians/Zioloonies controlling the U.S. government create the problem, they manage the reaction and then they offer up their solution?
By the way did you see this related story?
On January 29th of this year, [url=http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/stunning_dhs_solicited_bids_for_vendor_to_handle_65000_unaccompanied_minors__in_january.html]the federal government posted an advertisement[/url] seeking bids for a vendor contract to handle 65,000 “Unaccompanied Alien Children“.
You can [url=https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c6d7c0050b912fbc917a46d6709d38bd&tab=core&tabmode=list&=s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c6d7c0050b912fbc917a46d6709d38bd&tab=core&tabmode=list&]see the advertisemenet here[/url].
[quote=”Scott”]Not sure I fully understand your comments Sprite…
Why would the feds be helping illegal alliens to enter the U.S?
Most of the illegal immigrants in Costa Rica come from Nicaragua and the number of Guatemalans here (apart from my wife) and Mexicans is very small indeed.
As for being able to “verify” illegal immigration, that’s got to be nigh on impossible.
Scott[/quote]
Scott,I don’t trust anything this criminal government does and I doubt this has anything to do with humanitarian aid. Whatever the real motive is,or even if there is one, I am looking at this increase in illegal immigration from Central America from the other end and wondering if there is a noticeable lessening of illegal immigration into in Costa Rica yet.
http://nypost.com/2014/06/13/feds-looking-for-babysitters-to-help-with-illegal-immigrant-kids/
I don’t get a sense from people that Costa Rica has an illegal immigration problem. There must be, of course, a bit of it going on as there is in many places but it doesn’t seem to be a matter of concern or, at least, a matter of focus as it is in the States. Most Costa Ricans seems to be quite laid back about most everything except, of course, football. Is there even a national opinion on this matter?
A valid point, Sweikert. Ticos seem to be very tolerant of many other things as well, relative to North Americans. On the other hand, is Costa Rica perceived as facing a marked attack on their culture or an increase in crime due to undoicumented immigrants? Whether or not undocumented immigrants in the US are a source for increased crime or a deterioration of the culture, the perception is that they are.
For one thing, Nicaraguans coming into Costa Rica are speaking Spanish and come from a culture relatively more similar to that of Costa Rica. Undocumented Central Americans coming into the States are not English speakers for the most part and do not share the same cultural perspectives.
A more striking difference in cultures for the Ticos is definitely coming from us, the North American immigrants..and immigration from the Anglo north is controlled as much as the CR resources can afford.
[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”sprite”]A valid point, Sweikert. [/quote]
Thank you.[quote=”sprite”]Whether or not undocumented immigrants in the US are a source for increased crime or a deterioration of the culture, the perception is that they are.[/quote]
Perceptions are often wrong, particularly where racial and ethnic differences come into play. The amount of US crime caused by illegal immigrants is tiny compared to that caused by native born citizens. I’ve read comments and heard stories about crimes in CR caused by immigrants too, especially when drug trafficking is involved.As for “deterioration of the culture” some may look at it that way but I prefer to see it as “enhancement of the culture”. The idea that one culture is somehow superior to another is just wrong.[/quote]
Nobody on this thread is talking about the superiority of one culture over another. Please don’t try to turn this thread in that direction. I am pointing out the obvious which is that there are major differences in cultures which can be an impediment to the mix especially where there is undocumented immigration in significant numbers.
Anyway, it doesn’t matter whether a perception is wrong or not. What matters is that the perception dominates the situation. Expats in Costa Rica are aware that they are not culturally matched with Costa Rica. Obviously it is far more difficult for non-Spanish speakers from an Anglo-Saxon culture to fit in here than for Spanish speakers from a Latin culture.
I suspect that to the average Tico, undocumented immigration from Nicaragua may be less of an issue than legal immigration from less familiar cultures such as ours.
I guess this is what I am looking to find out. Even though I am a fluent Spanish speaker and have lived in Latin culture in Miami for over three decades, I know I will never be able to integrate into Costa Rican culture as a gringo to the same degree that I have in Miami among the Cubans and Puerto Ricans. No matter where I go in Costa Rica, no matter with whom I am speaking, for better or for worse, I am perceived as a gringo. As much as I desire to, I cannot shake off this feeling of being an outsider. Perhaps with passing of time….[quote=”davidd”][quote=”Scott”]Not sure I fully understand your comments Sprite…
Why would the feds be helping illegal alliens to enter the U.S?
Scott[/quote]
Scotthow was your trip???
regarding yor question about why the feds would be helping…?? there are some theory’s regarding this as this in my opinion is not accidental..
I forgot the name of one theory regarding to overload the current system and when it becomes so overwhelmed the people clamor for the government to come in and provide a solution..
interesting[/quote]
The “agenda” is called Cloward-Pivens, they were 2 socialist professors that wrote a very detailed plan of action or agenda of how to bring down the US by way of economically crippling the US by overloading the system via social programs, immigration, “free” healthcare, unemployment, ext. Gee, kinda like what is happening now? Rumor has it that the boy king is a fan and studied (at HAAAARVARD)this strategy, but we may never know because his school transcripts must have been on the same hard drive as the IRS emails…..
[quote=”sweikert925″]I always get a kick out of the loony conspiracy theories that float around on the right wing fringes but this one is especially hilarious. Let’s see, President Obama orders thousands of immigrants – many of them children – from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala to pick up and trek hundreds of miles north while also issuing orders to the border control forces to look the other way. (It has NOTHING to do with the awful crime and poverty that exist in those places).
He did this even though one of his major policy goals – immigration reform – would be completely obliterated and of course, none of the hundreds of people who would be in on the plot is a right winger or knows how to dial the number of Fox News. This is the same President Obama who has deported nearly 2 million illegal immigrants over the past 6 years and is in fact getting considerable heat from the left for doing so.
Thanks, I always like to start the day with a good laugh. LOLOLOL[/quote]
Was the posting on the .gov site soliciting bids for escorts to bring bus loads of folks into the US a “conspiracy theory”? Oh wait….it was just seeing what the going rate is so they can regulate it, that must be it. The boy king stating he would use executive action via pen and paper to create a defacto amnesty program is also a conspiracy as well I take it. Or the Homeland Security not allowing Congressmen to visit the boarder holding site a conspiracy theory too? Or the media threatened with jail if the took pictures a conspiracy theory?
When the fine people came from other countries to Ellis Island, where they whisked away and deposited into towns all over the US? No, they were given the opportunity to go through the proper system and become legal citizens. Obama and his admin are doing this to make it nearly impossible to tract these illegals back down, clearly violating the laws established.
I find it astounding that even you, Mr. Uber Left Wing, see’s no harm or foul play here. Try that crap trying to get into Costa Rica….I am here right now and they did not give me a 90 day stamp, only 2 days past my return ticket…..
[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”Kwhite1″]…and they did not give me a 90 day stamp, only 2 days past my return ticket…..[/quote]
I guess that proves your point that Costa Ricans have higher standards as to whom they let into their country LOL[/quote]
That was actually a good one.
No comment on the other points in my post huh? At a minimum you can at least call me a right ring conspiracy theorist, isn’t that the standard answer from the talking points you get everyday? Hard to comment and dispute the facts I guess.
And nobody responds to my question either. Do any of you any discomfort as obvious cultural interlopers?
[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”Kwhite1″] Hard to comment and dispute the facts I guess.[/quote]
What would be the point? Any facts I bring up to refute you, you just claim are lies. You rarely address the points I raise and yet feel I am obligated to address each one of yours. Seems a bit unfair, that.Besides, Scott has already declared this to be off-topic.[/quote]
I think it is right on point, addressing the immigration issue? Or did I miss something thing, I might have, I was out spending my money before the government could get it from me here is CR, the locals are happy cause I tip well.
Typical, do not address direct questions, divert into something else. That is what is so tiresome about your kind, you will not address direct questions. I would love to hear your take on all the the previous I posted about, even your beloved CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC reported these, so they must be true no? You can’t defend the obvious Steve, I would so love to shred you on these but if you admit even one your game is over. I would like to hear your defense on anything I stated…..or just stick to your talking points like good boy.
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